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Post by OverseerCWFJ on Sept 13, 2004 17:52:10 GMT -5
One of the most common questions that gets emailed to this ministry revolves around oral sex. What is your understanding of this controversial topic?
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Post by FireQuencher on Sept 13, 2004 18:52:23 GMT -5
There are several ways to look at this:
You can say it's not a natural use of the body and mouth
You can say that no scriptures condems or even addresses it directly, although the scriptures do address anal sex as a definite sin.
For me, I am still studying this and will follow God's lead.
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Post by OverseerCWFJ on Sept 13, 2004 20:00:52 GMT -5
FireQ,
I heard someone say once that the "tree in the midst of the garden" that Eve and Adam ate represented oral copulation.
Any thoughts on this anyone?
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Post by FireQuencher on Sept 13, 2004 20:30:11 GMT -5
Wow. I never thought about that possibility. I'll come back with a response after I look over that scripture again.
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Post by FireQuencher on Sept 14, 2004 16:07:47 GMT -5
Genesis 2:8: AND THE LORD GOD PLANTED A GARDEN EASTWARD IN EDEN; AND THERE HE PUT THE MAN WHOMHE HA FORMED.
Genesis 2:9: AND OUT OF THE GROUND MADE THE LORD GOD TO GROW EVERY TREE THAT IS PLEASANT TO THE SIGHT AND GOOD FOR FOOD: THE TREE OF LIFE ALSO IN THE MIDST OF THE GARDEN AND THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.
Genesis 2:16......OF EVERY TREE OF THE GARDEN THOU MAYEST FREELY EAT BUT OF THE TREE OF THE KNWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL THOU SHALT NOT EAT OF IT...FOR IN THE DAY THAT THOU EATEST THEREOF THOU SHALT SURELY DIE.
I believe that this is a physical type of tree and that this is not symbolic language. God does not leave things to the imagination. If this was in reference to oral sex, I believe HE would make that clear.
So it remains to be determined if oral sex in marriages is okay. I am going to keep studying and return...
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Post by LadyJ on Sept 14, 2004 21:52:43 GMT -5
Howdy!!!!!
Interesting. My pastor says that the mouth serves a specific purpose: to eat food, talk, drink.
Oral sex is not natural.
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Post by OverseerCWFJ on Sept 14, 2004 22:18:44 GMT -5
Lady J, I have a question for you to ponder (as I am going to stay neutral on this discussion and try to be a referee only).
Isn't it true, following your line of logic, that the mouth was not meant to kiss? You say that the mouth was created for eating, drinking, talking---life functions.
Kissing is not really a life function, meaning---you can go an entire lifetime and never kiss a person. Yet, people kiss. So is kissing also unnatural?
Just throwing out some questions to ponder. Not taking a stand here.
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Post by TrueWord on Sept 15, 2004 5:27:54 GMT -5
Although kissing is not a top priority of the mouth ;D we know that kissing cannot be unnatural b.c. Jesus Himself kissed people.
:-*Kissing does have a purpose and some purposes according to scripture are:
deceitful kissing (2 Sam 20:9 , 10)
fatherly kissing (Gen. 27: 26, 27)
Sexual love (Gen. 29:11)
Holy love (Rom. 16:16)
and so on and so forth....
The marriage bed is undefiled. Wouldn't that include oral sex? Or no?
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Post by Tornado on Sept 17, 2004 21:53:12 GMT -5
Oral sex? Doesn't the bible list hygiene laws in Leviticus? I do not believe that oral sex would pass the hygiene laws. The mouth is for eating = [food]
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Post by LadyJ on Sept 17, 2004 22:13:41 GMT -5
Oral sex? Doesn't the bible list hygiene laws in Leviticus? I do not believe that oral sex would pass the hygiene laws. The mouth is for eating = [food] With all due respect, brother, hygiene is a personal issue. I would hope that you would marry someone who has excellent hygiene and then this would not be an issue. NOW, having said that. I don't necessarily agree with oral sex but it's not because of hygiene. I believe that there is plenty a husband and wife can do without getting that graphic and while I DO agree that the mouth is for eating, I also question the naturalness of o.s. For example, why do people always ASK if it's okay? Is it because inherently they know it's not?
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Post by LadyJ on Sept 17, 2004 23:32:42 GMT -5
Lady J, I have a question for you to ponder (as I am going to stay neutral on this discussion and try to be a referee only). Isn't it true, following your line of logic, that the mouth was not meant to kiss? You say that the mouth was created for eating, drinking, talking---life functions. Kissing is not really a life function, meaning---you can go an entire lifetime and never kiss a person. Yet, people kiss. So is kissing also unnatural? Just throwing out some questions to ponder. Not taking a stand here. I actually DO believe that the mouth was made for kissing. Proof is that the lips pucker and kissing is a natural function that even babies engage in.
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Post by OverseerCWFJ on Sept 19, 2004 19:37:50 GMT -5
LadyJ,
So make your case for oral sex being unnatural. Those who engage would want to hear more than the "natural use of the mouth" argument...
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Post by Watchman On The Wall on Sept 19, 2004 20:31:41 GMT -5
FireQ, I heard someone say once that the "tree in the midst of the garden" that Eve and Adam ate represented oral copulation. Any thoughts on this anyone? I never heard this before however, I did hear that many people relate some of the Scriptures found in Song of Solomon to oral sex: Song of Solomon 2:3 (NASB) "Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest, so is my beloved among the young men. In his shade I took great delight and sat down, and his fruit was sweet to my taste". Song of Solomon 4:16 (NASB) "Awake, O north wind, and come, wind of the south; make my garden breathe out fragrance, let its spices be wafted abroad. May my beloved come into his garden and eat its choice fruits!" Again, these are the scriptures that were once given to me as "proof" that oral sex is okay within marraige. I had one main argument with this and that was that the scripture in chapter 2 (shown above) was BEFORE the wedding took place, which would imply that oral sex would also be okay before marraige. When asked about oral sex, because the bible is silent on the subject specifically, I often tell people to allow the Holy Spirit to be their guide. I want to be very careful of leading someone the wrong way. On the other hand, I often say that if one has to question it, it may not be okay for you to do. Just my $.02!
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Post by OverseerCWFJ on Sept 19, 2004 20:37:05 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, Prophetess and thanks for your insight and input!
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Post by TrueWord on Sept 19, 2004 22:52:48 GMT -5
I have a question for you to ponder (as I am going to stay neutral on this discussion and try to be a referee only). Why aren't you giving your opinion? Why are you only refereeing this? I'm curious what you think.
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